Hi, i have mostly done work on the Yu-gi-oh wiki until now. Didn't know that the same username used there could be used to help edit other wiki related sections as well. Would try to add more to this section in the future.
On another note, i checked the site of SNXTC and extracted many official character art images in png format (with blank background). Would it be alright to upload them as there are some already uploaded in here but in jpg format and there naming is not properly done.
Also would it be alright to create pages and update each of the characters (be major or minor) relating to Summon Night series (though i would mostly do for the GBA and DS games).
Another thing i wanted to ask. What type of Infobox should i use for characters. I have seen many articles using "infobox" templete and in some the "characterinfobox" templete is being used. "characterinfobox" templete seems to have some fixed tags (like location, level etc but i can't add tags like weapons, equipments), where as the "infobox" templete can used anyway we like and add any number of tags required.
Hello! You are very welcome to add content to this wikia as long as they are not fake, or just mockery.
Sorry for the almost non-existence of minor characters. I have a priority with the main characters, but it would be great if you could add more character info, including minor characters (since information about them is pretty hard to find).
Feel free to edit pages from any game or subject. If I find something I think it's wrong I will contact you first before editing, just to be sure. However, I never complained about someone's edits before, there were never wrong (except that time when a bot erased some pages).
I played all the GBA and DS games too, but it was a long time ago and I don't remember much about them (especially the GBA ones), since most people that edit this wikia played only those games (since they were the only ones that got localized) I let other people to work on those games, since I probably would write a lot of bullshit.
I tried to clean some images taken from the game once before and saved in png with a blank background. The result was awful, but it got better with the white background to hide the errors. Since them I have been using only images with white backgrounds, just to be sure. However, this is only a kind of superstition of mine, so I don't think it would be a problem to use images with blank backgrounds.
The only pattern about images I would like you to follow is this: When using a image on the INFOBOX, If the character is facing a especific direction (as most of summon night portraits tend to) make it so that direction is to the left (I like to do this because it makes me feel like the page is more close to the game's design, with the character in the right corner facing to the left). Everything is ok if it is an image not in the infobox (this is because the infobox always gets in the right corner and it is one of the main sources of info).
Talking about infoboxes, I always use that default one that has a big button in the right corner tools. The one that lets you choose what to write on every tag freely. If you want an example to what items should be in the infobox, just use the ones in the Summon Night 2 characters (not swordcraft 2). They have probably the most complete infobox in this wikia. But note that there is no necessary pattern to follow or any rule regarding this, so you can create your infoboxes as you please, the way you feel it would better represent the subject.
I just wanted to ask whether it is possible to edit the characterinfobox template so that the field's are not all compulsory and more different types of field could be added. I have never edited or created a template before, but if i get the basic idea about how to handle them then i could edit them.
I am asking this because i thought that it would be better to use different template style for the characters so as to make the pages look good. Also using a template like that would simplify the editing and creating work as well.
Another thing, do you have the source from which you got that Arozaids image. I could try and see if i am able make a better clean of it, but i need the original source of the image for that. Even if its on some site, it could possible work out for me. I am not saying that i would definitely be able to get a better result but i could try and see if i could.
If you are able to edit this template it would be great! I tried once before but it was in vain. I know you are not entirely sure if you will succeed. If it proves to be too difficult in the end, don't worry about it too much, but since you got the basic idea, it worth a try (I really am no good with this type of thing).
That Arozaid image was from a screen shot taken from a "let's play" from nico nico douga from Summon Night 1. I don't remember exactly what video was, but since the first game is pretty popular for "let's play" on nico nico dougo, it's pretty easy to find other videos with the same scene. It's from an event from chapter 6 on the first game. (静かなる凶鬼 - Silent Destroyer). But, if it's too difficult, don't worry about this one too. It's not like Kanon is the best Arozaid example out there either. I just used him because he was the first introduced in the series.
Ok then, i would try to edit that template (by using some reference from other wiki sections like Yu-gi-oh,etc).
Also i have just created a few pages, added a few images and updated a few section. Are they ok to you, as of now.
Also if possible, i need a bit of help in translating info from the official sites. At present i only know basic Japanese (most can only read Hiragana, Katakana & a few kanji and can understand a bit of the language), but i am not that good. So, it would be helpful if i could get any help in that part (though i would try to translate them myself but it would be a lot slower).
Yeah! I saw your pages and images. The images are very nice! Did they were taken from the official site? Good cleaning work! The pages are good too, even though they have just the basic informations, you created them very fast! I also understand there are few info because of your problem with translation. My japanese is also not perfect, but I understand most of the kanji used in fantasy stories (military theme are still a hell of difficulty for me). If you are having trouble understanding something, feel free to ask!
I wanted to ask, how do i test & check the effects of a edited template. Do i just edit the template and publish it and then check the article related to that template to check the effects.
Well i have made 2 trail version of the characterinfobox template (based on templates created by other people), when i test them using preview, everything seems to be ok. But to check whether it actually works or not, what should i do.
Like I said before, I am terrible at this subject and have failed miserably and trying to do this in the past. However, I think there is a type of template called "sandbox" that exist by default in every wikia. They are made only for the purpose of testeing new templates. Nothing is permanently saved on them, so you can go ahead and test any new template saving over them. I just don't know exactly they are located or how do you "call" for them. Sorry for not being more helpful.
It looks pretty good! really liked! I only have three questions:
1- There is a "< b >" on the name of the character between the romaji and japanese name. What is it for?
2- Can you change the "faction" section to "group"? It's just that, for some cases, I think it gets a bit weird to use "faction", since it sounds more like a official or registrated group. For example: the wind brigade from swordcraft 2 is just a few kids living in a cave. But it's ok if you think it's better to leave like this, it's just my personal opinion, it's works the same either way.
3- Is it possible to change the color of the infobox? It's just that blue doesn't fit much with the color used in this wikia. I used the colors from the menus in Summon Night 5 as a bases to give the impression to be playing the game. If it is possible, can you change it for the color at the upper and bottom of the page (that brown/dark red one).
Anyway, nice work! Thank you!
PS: I was reading the new pages you did and, In the page about Aldo, that part about him being the only summon beast that is a main character. There is also the 4 protagonists from the first game in the main series. They all first start as normal humans living on Earth, in a city from Japan called Nagimiya, until they get summoned to Reienbaum.
1 - You mean "<br>" right, that command is used for creating a line break, the effect is same as using "Enter" in word documents.
2 - I don't have any problem changing it from "Faction" to "Group". I also had the same feeling actually, but since "Faction" was already being used in that template, i didn't think of changing it until i was able to first edit the template correctly and then discussing it with you.
3 - Well i can change the colour of the infobox, but for that i need the colour HEX code that you want. Unless i know the exact HEX code, it would be difficult for me to get the correct colour shade (since there are many shades which look similar but are still different and can have different HEX code and in this kind of editing knowing the HEX code is kind of important as only those can be used). For the shade you want, check the links below and tell me the HEX code beside it (example: HEX code for Black is #000000 or 000000),
Also to change the colour, i would have to edit the InfoboxHeaderStyle template. Would it be ok to edit the InfoboxStyle template as well, because i wanted to increase the size of width of the characterinfobox.
Another thing i wanted to ask was, do i make each parameter in the characterinfobox to appear inside a box (kind of similar to how the ones created using the infobox template), or do i leave it as it is.
As for the trivia regarding Aldo, well i haven't checked those yet. Presently i am only focused on first creating a basic character page (with images) for most of the games. Also i didn't add that trivia entry. I think it would be better to ask the person who made that entry (i.e., if it is possible to contact that person). If you are sure that trivia is wrong then you can go ahead and delete it (from how that trivia is written, i get the feeling that the person who added it only played the spin-offs and did play the main series games yet).
PS: Forgot to ask, what name should i use for people who voice a game character. Is "Character Voice" ok, or should i change it to something like "Voice Artist", or use the Japanese term "Seiyū" instead.
Also if can think of anymore field to be added, then tell me.
Can you make so it gets more similar to the info box style? I think that would be better.
Wow, I had not noticed that info on Aldo page was there before, sorry.
About the Character voice section: Before that, I had to change between "voice actor" and "voice actress" all the time regarding the gender of the person behind the voice. Since it will be fixed now, I think it's better to change to something more neutral like: "Character Voice"
I can't think of anymore fields to be added for now. If you used the infobox from one of the Summon Night 2 characters (as I see you did by looking at the fields you used) this were the infoboxes that I did with the most fields. Add something If you think something is missing.
I have made some of the changes. Is it ok. Also if you want, i can also change the colour of the text (i.e., the name of the character and the heading 'Vital statistics') from white to any other colour, you just have to give me the HEX code of your desired colour
To make it similar to the infobox style it would take some time as i have to figure out the proper way to do it (presently i think only the tabular form is left to do).
I was thinking that using the name Seiyū would be much better than using Character Voice, or else Voice Artist is also ok.
Could you change to "7E2920"? I think this would be better.
I think the color of the text is ok. Do you think I different color would be better?
If changing the format of the infobox style is gonna be troublesome, it's ok them. It's just a minor detail anyway. I don't think it's necessary to mind about this.
I didn't actually created this wikia. I came here just like you around the time when the Summon Night revival project was started by BandaiNamco. When I checked the writting style used in other pages, I noticed the writters didn't used many japanese terms (like senpai, sensei, kouhai) so I choosed to follow this (what is actually kind of a pain in the ass some times). If was to think about keeping this style "Voice Artist" would be better. I personally would preffer Seiyū. What to do...When writting your page info, will you use japanese words or terms like that? If your answer is yes, then use "Seiyū".
As for the tablular format, i figured it out pretty much how to do it but it doesn't look good to me. I have to mess around a bit more. But i think that for now, this structure looks ok.
As for using japanese terms, i think i may end up using some in the articles considering that only 3 games of the SN series were released in English. So, if there is something that can't be translated to something appropriate in english, i would most likely use the japanese term.
Thank you very much! It looks great! I will use this infobox from now on, it will be pretty useful. Just call me if you need something. Just one more thing: Do you know how to create those infoboxes that have options to change between several illustrations of the character in the same infobox? Since Summon Night characters tend to change outfits or to age through the games, this would come in quiet handy. It's really unnecessary, so it's okey if you don't have the time to do it.
I have to check it out first but i think i can could manage it somehow, but it would take some time.
Also have you checked Toris's page. I applied the new template in that page.
PS: Seems like i would first have to create a templates named "Switch", "Toggle" & a few other types of new templates and then i can apply that effect on the other templates to get the final result. Looks like it would take a bit more time than normal to do this one.
Ok! Like I said before, don't mind too much if it prove to be too much troublesome. It's already great the it is now. I think it worth to give a try when you have free time to waste but, nothing to hurry.
P.S.: Could you keep the illustrations used during the event dialogs in the game for the infobox of the character from the main series? It's just that I have been using this as a pattern until now. Again, just my personal preference.
Its ok to me regarding the illustrations. But i was thinking of editing those images to give them a blank background and re-uploading them in png format. Would that be ok with you. Also if you want, i already have that same image of Toris (which was there before) with me in png format and with blank background. I could upload it if its ok with you.
Actually, I totally agree with you about using images with blank background because, with the new infobox, the white background gets kinda ungly. If you could upload this image I would be very thankful.
I was doing some re-edits to change the images to blank backgrounds, but I decided it doesn't worth to change every already uploaded image to blank BG. Even if it is only the images that are being used in the character infobox, it will still take too long to result in a work that almost no one will notice the difference. Not to mention it will represent no new content or info. From now on, every image that I upload will be a blank BG png (when possible), but for now, it's best to not waste time changing the old ones.
PS: By the way, I think it's better to not add Toris and Magna full body images on that spot (around the "personality" and "background" section) because it will made the text get too squished and hard to read.
Well the reason i have placed those full body images there is because i have seen many wikia doing things like that (but it usually is beside the "Appearence" article). And to me it looked good.
Also if you feel that the image makes the text get squished, we can simply change the size of the image to make the image appear smaller (presently its at 200px).
As for uploading images, well i have a lot of images for many of the SN series characters with blank BG. Using the Multiple Upload option, i can easily upload them quickly. Also except for the Main Series games, most of the other games don't have that many characters articles (like in SNTA case, there is only 3 articles or in the 3rd GBA game, we only have 2 acharacter articles).
And for those which have to be edited to get the blank BG, well i can do that (though it would take a bit of time).
Actually i was thinking of first adding new images with the new edited template for the existing characters and then move on to creating new character pages. But if you want, then i won't add images for the Main series games (though i got all the images of 23 characters with blank bg of the SN2 ds game form the official site).
Well, I will not go all bossy with you by saying what you have to do. I was just preoccupied that it would be a lot of work for you to do, this is why I wanted to let things easier for you by saying not to worry about it. But if you really want to do it, I am in no place to stop you, since it's not like you are doing something wrong.
This makes the following sections get more free space, thats why the text doesn't get squished on other wikias. Since this is not the case around this wikia (because there is not so many excuses to add so many sections to all characters), we should use another solution. Although I think that resizing the image so it get smaller should do the trick.